and lindsay lohan, behind bars after failing a drug test only to be set free. joining me to talk about, joey jackson and vicky ziegler. every time i see a public figure defamation lawsuit, i say good luck. you are a public figure and there is a higher burden of proof. you have to prove actual malice. >> they were going intended to harm this person's reputation. >> gregg: how do you prove that? >> almost impossible to do, especially when you are a public figure a celebrity. >> gregg, if it works. >> how many cases have actually been proven and how many can prove damages? very difficult. >> gregg: like the only one i remember. >> here is the point. u.s. times versus sullivan, what the standard, nothing of false it or reckless disregard of the truth. we have a ma dam who is convicted felon who happens to be running governor who says nonsense she had something with people employed. we have to make it suspect. we have to hold the media to some standard. >> gregg: second have all, you have to prove that the good name has been damaged. arguably, i can hear a defense a